First Week of Daycare

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  • Friday, October 30, 2009 4:57 PM
    Reply # 238023 on 218707

    Joanna,

    Thank you so much for your reply.

    I have contacted Thornhill woods, but I would like to ask you a question about them personally. My daughter has food allergies to a lot of things and I do not htink their menu will be best for her.

    In your heart, do you think they will make a true effort to accommodate that or not?

    Anna

  • Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:41 PM
    Reply # 238358 on 218707

    Do you know if kids get outside regularly in infant programs?

    I have an impression they do not do that in some places?

    thanks,

    Anna

  • Monday, November 02, 2009 2:57 PM
    Reply # 238918 on 238358
    Anna Moldavski wrote:

    Do you know if kids get outside regularly in infant programs?

    I have an impression they do not do that in some places?

    thanks,

    Anna


    By law, they have to be outside twice a day. You have to look at where the daycares take the children. For example, downtown Toronto, the infants are taken in their strollers for a walk outside. Well, that means going through traffic noise, no trees, maybe a bit more pollution. In the suburbs, a walk outside might be more pleasant depending on location. And some daycares take the infants "outside" for fresh air on their property because they feel it's safer, or their neighbourhood is not ideal for walks.
  • Monday, November 02, 2009 2:58 PM
    Reply # 238919 on 238023
    Anna Moldavski wrote:

    Joanna,

    Thank you so much for your reply.

    I have contacted Thornhill woods, but I would like to ask you a question about them personally. My daughter has food allergies to a lot of things and I do not htink their menu will be best for her.

    In your heart, do you think they will make a true effort to accommodate that or not?

    Anna


    No problem. I've sent you an e-mail.
  • Monday, November 02, 2009 2:59 PM
    Reply # 238927 on 236236
    Melanie Curtis wrote:I love the daycare I'm using in Richmond Hill.  They are awesome!  I feel so comfortable leaving him there and I think that makes a big differenct  :)

    Which daycare are you using?
  • Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:58 PM
    Reply # 244848 on 218707
    I spent quite some time looking at day cares for my son and initially had no idea what to expect. After having seen a few, I was able to come up with a list of things that were important to me: ie. separate area for infants to sleep which meant that they would be flexible with my baby's sleep patterns initially; enclosed outdoor play area that is separate from toddler play areas; overall cleanliness; policy to clean toys after each use; and turn-over of staff. I also took a good look at the kids to see if they looked clean and happy. I recall one place I visited, there was a baby playing who had previously been crying. Her entire face was wet and shiny but despite no other child having any immediate needs (they were all playing happily at the time), none of the staff (and there were three) made any attempts to wipe her up. In the end, I was very fortunate to have found a place that I am very comfortable with. But since no place is as perfect as home and no care provider will ever be as attentive to him as I would, I realized that I have to be realistic with my expectations too.
  • Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:27 PM
    Reply # 247162 on 244848
    Patricia Leon wrote:I spent quite some time looking at day cares for my son and initially had no idea what to expect. After having seen a few, I was able to come up with a list of things that were important to me: ie. separate area for infants to sleep which meant that they would be flexible with my baby's sleep patterns initially; enclosed outdoor play area that is separate from toddler play areas; overall cleanliness; policy to clean toys after each use; and turn-over of staff. I also took a good look at the kids to see if they looked clean and happy. I recall one place I visited, there was a baby playing who had previously been crying. Her entire face was wet and shiny but despite no other child having any immediate needs (they were all playing happily at the time), none of the staff (and there were three) made any attempts to wipe her up. In the end, I was very fortunate to have found a place that I am very comfortable with. But since no place is as perfect as home and no care provider will ever be as attentive to him as I would, I realized that I have to be realistic with my expectations too.

    What is the day care and where is it located ?
  • Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:14 PM
    Reply # 914893 on 218707
    Hi,

    I realize this is an old thread.  But I need someone to give me some input about their baby's transition to daycare.

    My daughter is 1-year-old now, and this is her 2nd week of full-day in home daycare.  The past week has been distressed for the whole family.  Daddy, myself, and baby are all sick (from fever to flu to cough) due to complete exhaustion. 

    My daughter was a very easy baby, has a good 2-naps routine, sleep on her own for both naps and night, not picky about any food and loves to eat and drink.  This is all before daycare. 

    Since she started daycare, she has the loud upsetting cry when we drop off and pick her up, which we've expected.  Due to our work, we need to leave her at daycare from 7-5ish.  She refused to nap at daycare according to the care provider, and I believe they have tried many ways, and different schedule, but to no avail.  According to the care provider, apparently she eats well there.  But when we pick her up in the evening at around 5-ish, she is so exhausted and cranky, so the evening has become very difficult for us.  She ate very little at dinner, and spit out most of the food (which she never had this behaviour before), and she fell asleep or almost on most evenings.  We have shortened our evening routine and put her to bed a lot early already at around 7pm, in hope she will at least get 10-11 hours night sleep.  But still, she just come home exhausted very day due to lack of sleep.  And she doesn't sleep through the night anymore too, as she will cry desperately for us in the middle of night.  So one of us has been staying with her in the middle of night.

    And on the weekend, when we had her for the full day, it's like we don't know anything about her anymore.  She refused to nap whenever we put her down.  She doesn't eat most of what we prepared (which are the food she used to like so much before daycare) thus eats very little throughout the day.  She would cry and we would not be able to figure her out.

    She had fever twice now in less than 2 weeks.  (and again never before daycare)  The first one maybe due to her 1-year-old immunization shot.  But this second one,  it could be from us, or from not eating enough and distress...I don't know...


    Anyone has gone through similar struggles??  Any tips or suggestions??  Any word of assurance that she is not alone in her change?  How to console her?  It's just so hard to see her cry so hard/being upset/not eat/not sleep well... in addition to my own adjustment to be back at work.

    Thanks for reading and listening in advance!

    Sophia
  • Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:15 AM
    Reply # 934002 on 218707
    Hi Sophia, I am sorry if I am misunderstanding but your daughter has only been in daycare for one week and had 2 fevers, didn't nap for the week and was different that weekend and during the night? Has anything gotten better since you posted? I notice it has been a week and there haven't been updates or replies.
    My question would be about the transition that you did to the daycare. When we placed my daughter into daycare, we did it over a few days and so did all of my friends as that seems to be the norm. We took her the first day for a couple of hours and stayed with her, the second day for half a day but I stayed for the first 2 hours, the 3rd day I didn't stay long but she only stayed half a day, the 4th day, I dropped her off and left immediately and she stayed 6 hours and day 5, she stayed 8 hours by herself. We found that making the transition over a period of time, made it much easier on everyone. However, regardless, it is a change and never will be perfect. 
    Are there many other children in the daycare? Does your daughter get to take a special blanket with her or something of yours? What is your drop off and pick up routine like? Did you do many activities like Early Years Centers, circle times, playdates and such before or is this a very sudden change for her being around other people and away from home? 
    Also, some children are just much more structured and find change difficult, just like adults. Some are more go with the flow then others. Your daughter seems to be experiencing separation anxiety and some fear, in my non professional opinion. If she has been with a babysitter, family members, friends and in lots of social situations before, then this may pass quicker as she adjusts. If she has been mainly with you and dad and not left with anyone before or rarely left, this is probably a huge shock to her and difficult for her to understand.
    My suggestion is that if you feel safe with the provider, to keep putting her to bed really early. At her age, 12 hours a night is not uncommon to be honest. Sleep also begets sleep and you may think that sleeping longer at night will keep her from napping but that is false. Read "Healthy Sleep Habits, Healthy Kids" for more info. It's an interesting read and goes from newborns all the way up.
    Your daughter may also be sensing your stress and feelings of guilt or frustration. You did say that it was wearing on the whole family. Children are super sensitive and she may fee the tension from you. Therefore, I highly suggest taking care of yourself and getting as much rest as you can. If your child needs extra love and coddling right now, give it to her. It's not a big deal, she is only 1 after all, not a teenager with survival skills. When you drop her off, make it quick as prolonging it makes it work and they will play on that. Children are very smart and once they know a behavior is working to get them attention, even bad attention, they will keep doing it. 
    As for naps, our daycare provider asked us to bring a blanket from home and some kids had special sleep buddies at that age too. It's really hard to sleep in a strange spot so maybe ask your provider what the routine is and work together to make the bed and routine as similar to home as possible. If that fails, have the daycare provider wear your daughter on her back or front as she walks around or does stuff. Guaranteed pass out. Just make sure it's a really good carrier like a Pikkolo, Beco, Tula or Ergo. NO BABY BJORNS! They don't align your child or the person carrying the child properly and cause undue strain, pain and can be dangerous. I find that even now, my almost 3 year old will pass out if I wear her or hold her close.Women around the world wear their children all day long for a reason.
    If things to improve and your daughter is still getting sick all the time, not sleeping and things are just awful, I would speak to my doctor. You could also try a nanny share so your daughter is at home in her own environment.
    I wish  you luck and hope that things have improved for all your sakes. One week is a very short period of time to expect a baby to adjust so I may have misunderstood your post and apologize if that is the case. 
  • Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:53 PM
    Reply # 947072 on 218707
    Hi Amar,
    Thank you for the reply and suggestion, and sorry for not checking and replying back earlier.

    Yeah, it's been a month now, and my daughter Abigail is finally settling in, and back to her normal eating and sleeping routine and becoming an easy child again.  We did do the transition week as you described, starting from 2 hours and progressing to full day.  But I found that is not really helping a lot in my case because her primary issue is lack of nap/sleep.  So if I put her in the day care less than a full day, I can manage to squeeze in more sleep for her before and after I pick her up, as in my case.  The real struggle came when she started full day in daycare.  She just refused to nap at daycare.  And my provider told me that they have tried various time and methods, but usually after half an hour of intensive crying, they will let her out of the crib as they feel it's too stressful for her; and also not recommended by the nursery act guideline.  Then she would end up really super tired and cranky from the moment I pick her up.

    And then she got sick/fever for the entire second week after the first week of this full time care with constant lack of sleep.  So when she went back to full time care the 3rd week, it was like the battle starting all over again.  We decided to put her to bed an hour earlier than we used to (around 7:30).  It is very rush for us to fit in the dinner and bathing and bedtime routine, and really cutting the time my husband can spend with her since my husband come home anytime between 6:30-7.   We are sad about this change, but this is the only way we can squeeze in a little bit of more sleep for her.

    Even now, she is able to sleep on her own again and sleep through the night, and eat well, I still think the total hours of sleep she gets is not enough  (she is getting 12-12.5 hours in total a day only now).  I don't want to push my provider too much on the nap time as she really tries to get her engaged with the daily routine with other kids as well.  It's interesting you suggest the care provider can carry her in a baby carrier.  I never thought I can request this.  Is it too much to ask for? Especially the care provider has other older kids to take care of as well.  I somehow struggle with how I should communicate with my provider as well, not sure how much information/suggestions I should provide without having her feeling that I am intruding her knowledge in caring for child.

    Sophia
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